Whether it’s Costa Ludus, Optics Ready Stealth, or Suppressor Height, Night Fision has sights that work well with most pistol/optics combination. Once you determine whether you want a very low co-witness, a lower 1/3, or an absolute co-witness, its time to shop for sights that accomplish that.
With the large variety of after-market slides available for Glocks and now more frequently Sig Sauer P320’s, we at Night Fision see a variety of depths to which there is a cut, or mill, into the slide for the optic. Because the depth is not universal, it’s important to measure how deep down off the topline, or top-strap, the cut goes. Knowing your milling depth is one of three measurements that help you better shop for the perfect sights. Some business will let you know to what depth they mill for optic cuts if you’re sending your slide to be cut.
Top: A Sig Sauer P320 style slide with a Sig Romeo optic directly mounted to the slide. Above: A Sig Sauer P320 slide with a Leupold Delta Point Pro optic mounted with a slim adaptor plate.ย
The next element isn’t always present, but can influence how high your optic sits: a plate. Just like the myriad of slide options there are a number of plates on the market to help better mount your optic to your slide of choice. A thicker slide will push your optic higher up, and thinner plate (such as a sealing plate) will effect the height the optic is pushed upwards less. Many reputable plate manufacturers can accurately tell you the thickness of your plate.
Finally, the most obvious element? The optic. As optics become more common, more companies are producing pistol optics. The section of the optic you should measure is the rear section, which for most optics is where the battery is housed.
Above: A few of the most popular optics we hear being paired with our sights. Swampfox Sential, Trijicon RMR, Holosun 507c, and Leupold Delta Point Pro.ย
While the battery housing is fairly similar in height on the Holosun and Trijicon optics, the Leupold Delta Point Pro has more height in the back. If you have a Delta Point Pro, it’s generally found that you’ll need Suppressor Height to make it over the tall battery housing at the rear for a co-witness.
So what do you do with all these measurements? Well if you take your Optic height, add in any plate thickness if you have one, and then subtract you milling depth, you should have an approximate number of the height at which you optic sits above the top-strap of your pistol. If you search for blade heights that are *just* over that number, they will more than likely be a low co-witness like our Costa Ludus sights are sitting at. With a number much greater than the optic height sum, it’s likely they will sit similar to Suppressor Height.
This guide is meant to help you better choose your favorite new sights. Arming yourself with information, measurements especially, can greatly help you shop, or help us do our best to suggest an ideal set of sights for your needs.
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Hi, I just put together my new pistol build and after reading some of the comments I’m a little worried I’ll order the wrong height irons… Could you please help me? I have a Sig Sauer P320 XTen with this optic:
https://www.primaryarms.com/holosun-he509-rd-enclosed-solar-powered-red-dot-sight-w-507c-mounting-plate-acss-vulcan-reticle.
The adapter plate is the Holosun one that comes with the optic for the RMR/507C footprint. I’m looking for a lower 1/3 (or close) co-witness, similar to the “optics ready stealth” images above. Definitely not an absolute co-witness. I would greatly appreciate the help. Thank you!
Great question and glad you reached out, this article pre-dates quite a few product updates–including more options in the Sig Sauer Optics Ready Stealth Sights. Since the 509 is a side clamp, it needs a bit more material on the mounting plate. We don’t yet have the 100% confirmation on whether the 345-332 blade height would yield the cowitness you’re looking for, but we also would bet it doesn’t sit as tall as the Delta Point Pro, which the tallest blade height is made for. As long as you don’t mount the sights, you can always exchange them for the taller set should they look like they’ll be too short.